Do you allow users to out-source your services?

jakemadness

I agree, if the buyer keeps returning then that is great for us service providers and the buyers. It doesn't relay make a difference if they are outsourcing your service or not

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Beverly

And, how would a seller arrange with the buyer, so they understand their services are being outsourced? Do you just ask someone if you can outsource your work? How do you handle that?

11 years ago

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I definitely allow it, I cannot see any reason why a seller wouldn't. Sales are sales after all, you're still making money.

Now if they were directly copying my sales pages without permission or trying to actually claim to be on another site or something then things are a lot different and i'd be doing everything to stop them.

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Karoshio

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mqss

People who resell your services are the best buyers in many cases, so if a big time advertiser notices your service and a big value in it, he will do everything to resell your service for double or tripple price. I know some services here on SEOclerks are easily worth x3 of their original price here, like BarryinSiam's gigs.

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hitmeasap

If you see a user out-sourcing your service, do you allow it? I do! I still earn money from it so it's fine by me.

I welcome everyone to purchase my services. I don't mind if they purchase my services for themselves or for reselling purpose. However, I'd never allow someone to purchase my services on SEOClerks and sell them here themself if they copied everything, such as title, description etc. It's hard to get people to stop doing this once they've started, since you can't actually prove them being blatant copy-cats.. Until you deny the sellers orders. That's the way I'd handle it anyways. ;)

And, how would a seller arrange with the buyer, so they understand their services are being outsourced? Do you just ask someone if you can outsource your work? How do you handle that?

To be honest, I believe about 10% are telling the providers that they resell their services.. Most of them are just placing orders like a "normal buyer" would do everytime they get an order themself. I on the other hand would contact the provider directly since that would give me a chance to get a discount and the seller would be notified about my intention. After that, it's up to the provider to decide whether he likes it or not.

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hitmeasap

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Beverly

I welcome everyone to purchase my services. I don't mind if they purchase my services for themselves or for reselling purpose. However, I'd never allow someone to purchase my services on SEOClerks and sell them here themself if they copied everything, such as title, description etc. It's hard to get people to stop doing this once they've started, since you can't actually prove them being blatant copy-cats.. Until you deny the sellers orders. That's the way I'd handle it anyways. ;)

hitmeasap

For sure, copying is not cool. If someone was providing a really amazing SEOClerks service and didn't mind me offering it for resale, then I would do so if I could find a way. I'm looking for ways to increase income without increasing time invested as my time online is more limited these days due to taking care of my family offline. Hopefully, subcontracting would be a good way to do that.

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hitmeasap

For sure, copying is not cool. If someone was providing a really amazing SEOClerks service and didn't mind me offering it for resale, then I would do so if I could find a way. I'm looking for ways to increase income without increasing time invested as my time online is more limited these days due to taking care of my family offline. Hopefully, subcontracting would be a good way to do that.

I've seen several sellers on SEOClerks providing identical services, (can't say if they are reselling each others but I guess some of them do) but I wouldn't do that. I mean resell on the same marketplace. The "main" provider of the service will still earn but the resellers will find it hard to make sales due to the prices. It's not too fun to work and sell things for $0,20 etc in profit. That's why I'd go with other ways myself. The best part is, that there's several ways to do this. All it takes is some thinking "outside the box" and within seconds you'll "run a business" where the potential customers thinks that you are the one providing the services, which is the best way to make sales in the long run. People will always try to go with the cheaper ones if the quality and all that is the same, but if you can add "that little extra" upon your service, then you're on to something with huge potential.

For example:
If you make a deal with a provider of Forum Posts. The provider creates 10 posts and you'll pay $5 for those. (You'll pay the full price for this, since the provider doesn't earn enough if he/she offer a discount but this provider gives you 2 extra posts for always purchasing his service.) That means, that this provider actually sells 8 forum posts for $5 to others, but you'll get 10 of them instead. (These kind of deals are very common)

If you sold these yourself, you sell those 10 posts, but how much should you charge? That's the most interesting part about reselling. You could offer them for $8 but you'll still find it difficult to make sales because people will still go with the "original provider" since you lack in positive reviews and all that.. So instead of ending up with 3 sale per month you'll find it much easier to sell this if you add something yourself.

Why not make 5 forum posts yourself and add those too? Your service will have 15 posts and you'll be able to sell it for $8 or $9, which makes people way more interested since you provide almost 100% more than the other provider, for a lower cost in total.

That will result in $8 or $9 per order..-$5 for the service you have to purchase and minus the commission. Sure, we're not talking about any huge sums but we're talking about easy cash, since you'll only have to do 50% of the work yourself and still earn the same as the original provider who's doing 50% more work than you are.

Can't tell if I was clear or not with all this, but I hope you'll understand.

Another Example:
Social Media Services. Let's say Facebook Fanpage Likes. They are high in demand and it's tons of competitors.
Let's say someone offer 1000 for $5 and he get's 20 sales per day. Another one provides 500 for $2 and get's about 20 sales per day too.
(That's 1500 likes for $9 in total.)

What can you do, to start gaining some of those sales and earn some of that money?

You could purchase both services, you'll spend $7 but you'll have a chance to get discounts or more likes since you'll start purchasing services from these specific sellers several times.. That means, you could start providing about 2000 likes for $10 (if your providers adds extra likes for you). You'll earn $3 minus the commission so you'll end up with $1 profit. Without doing any work at all. Except copying the order details you get from your client and give the details to your provider. (You'll get sales, since people would be able to place 1 order instead of purchasing several orders.)

Another way to make this work is by offering something else.. Let's say you offer ~2000 likes AND 5 forum posts.. Or 2000 likes and 500 comment likes.. The only thing you'll have to do, is finding another provider of the "extra" you'll offer or by adding something you can do yourself.

In my experience.. Most resellers fail since they're trying to make money (over-pricing etc).. Don't do that. It's a total waste of time. Sure, you'll be able to make a couple of sales for sure, but it's way better, at least in my own opinion to make sales regularly and earn less. That will give you a nice boost in feedback and you'll benefit from it in the long run.

Sorry for off topic, I just had to!

Regards,
hitmeasap [quote]For sure, copying is not cool. If someone was providing a really amazing SEOClerks service and didn't mind me offering it for resale, then I would do so if I could find a way. I'm looking for ways to increase income without increasing time invested as my time online is more limited these days due to taking care of my family offline. Hopefully, subcontracting would be a good way to do that.[/quote] I've seen several sellers on SEOClerks providing identical services, (can't say if they are reselling each others but I guess some of them do) but I wouldn't do that. I mean resell on the same marketplace. The "main" provider of the service will still earn but the resellers will find it hard to make sales due to the prices. It's not too fun to work and sell things for $0,20 etc in profit. That's why I'd go with other ways myself. The best part is, that there's several ways to do this. All it takes is some thinking "outside the box" and within seconds you'll "run a business" where the potential customers thinks that you are the one providing the services, which is the best way to make sales in the long run. People will always try to go with the cheaper ones if the quality and all that is the same, but if you can add "that little extra" upon your service, then you're on to something with huge potential. [B]For example:[/B] If you make a deal with a provider of Forum Posts. The provider creates 10 posts and you'll pay $5 for those. (You'll pay the full price for this, since the provider doesn't earn enough if he/she offer a discount but this provider gives you 2 extra posts for always purchasing his service.) That means, that this provider actually sells 8 forum posts for $5 to others, but you'll get 10 of them instead. (These kind of deals are very common) If you sold these yourself, you sell those 10 posts, but how much should you charge? That's the most interesting part about reselling. You could offer them for $8 but you'll still find it difficult to make sales because people will still go with the "original provider" since you lack in positive reviews and all that.. So instead of ending up with 3 sale per month you'll find it much easier to sell this if you add something yourself. Why not make 5 forum posts yourself and add those too? Your service will have 15 posts and you'll be able to sell it for $8 or $9, which makes people way more interested since you provide almost 100% more than the other provider, for a lower cost in total. That will result in $8 or $9 per order..-$5 for the service you have to purchase and minus the commission. Sure, we're not talking about any huge sums but we're talking about easy cash, since you'll only have to do 50% of the work yourself and still earn the same as the original provider who's doing 50% more work than you are. Can't tell if I was clear or not with all this, but I hope you'll understand. :) [B]Another Example:[/B] Social Media Services. Let's say Facebook Fanpage Likes. They are high in demand and it's tons of competitors. Let's say someone offer 1000 for $5 and he get's 20 sales per day. Another one provides 500 for $2 and get's about 20 sales per day too. (That's 1500 likes for $9 in total.) What can you do, to start gaining some of those sales and earn some of that money? You could purchase both services, you'll spend $7 but you'll have a chance to get discounts or more likes since you'll start purchasing services from these specific sellers several times.. That means, you could start providing about 2000 likes for $10 (if your providers adds extra likes for you). You'll earn $3 minus the commission so you'll end up with $1 profit. Without doing any work at all. Except copying the order details you get from your client and give the details to your provider. (You'll get sales, since people would be able to place 1 order instead of purchasing several orders.) Another way to make this work is by offering something else.. Let's say you offer ~2000 likes AND 5 forum posts.. Or 2000 likes and 500 comment likes.. The only thing you'll have to do, is finding another provider of the "extra" you'll offer or by adding something you can do yourself. In my experience.. Most resellers fail since they're trying to make money (over-pricing etc).. Don't do that. It's a total waste of time. Sure, you'll be able to make a couple of sales for sure, but it's way better, at least in my own opinion to make sales regularly and earn less. That will give you a nice boost in feedback and you'll benefit from it in the long run. Sorry for off topic, I just had to! Regards, hitmeasap

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